An epiphany from "Showbiz Moms & Dads"

DUNCAN NUTTER MUST BE SHOT. Not just for the good of his family, but for the good of humanity.

Make that two epiphanies:

DEBBIE TYE IS AN EVIL BITCH.

Okay, I'm done.

Comments

[pam]

I almost watched that last night. But I would have yelled at the TV for an hour straight, and woken up the kid - major hassle.

[Reverend H.L. Spork]

Remember those novelty foam bricks that you could throw at the TV, and it would make a crashing sound? I'd wear out the batteries tossing it at most of the characters on that show. If it weren't for the Girlfriend sucking me into the show, I'd probably be a much calmer human being. And yes, it's all her fault. Nyah!

[Morgan]

I think that Jordan and her mom are GREAT! Also, Emily Tye's mother is NOT mean, NOT nasty. Everyone wants to make her look like a monster, but she's a nice person. For the Nutter's, I think they should go back to Vermont and the father can stay in NY. Then Shane, needs to STOP singing and dancing.

My 2 cents,
Morgan

[ChgoRed]

The Rev didn't say anything about Debbie Tye being mean and nasty.  Having watched the show with him, I can tell you his objection lies in the fact that Mrs. Tye is a *lousy* parent. Pixy Stix for breakfast (her description, not mine)?  Spray-on tans for a four-year-old (never mind the tear streaks)?  Ignoring repeated pleas from Emily about how tired she is--again, in tears?  Training and retraining her to the point where even the judges call her "robotic"? Letting your mother blow literally thousands of dollars on pageant weekends, when the money would be put to far better use in a college fund?  Showing your daughter that if you lose, it's OK to call the winning child's parents "a**holes"?  Those are lovely lessons to teach a child. She is overworking her daughter and ignoring her needs in favor of what good cause? At first, she claimed the pageants were to build Emily's self-esteem; by the last episode, she was talking about how she wanted to get her children an agent and "put them to work." Fancy that.

It's not that everyone "wants to make her look like a monster". Bravo wouldn't have been able to show that footage if she hadn't provided it to them through her actions. Maybe somewhere, there's a pile of unused "nice-Debbie" footage, just waiting to be revealed. You could try Fantasyland.

And by the way--there were TWO Jordans on the show.

[jlo]

I just can't get over Debbie Tye on the follow up show. How she sat there and cried about everyone attacking her. She never should have put herself on television in the first place. Im surprised she has not tryied out for The Swan yet. Well she should think about it.

I don't think its right for her to try to relive her childhood through her doughter. A four year old does'nt know what they want to do in life yet. All a child wants to do is make there parents happy. I hope they do take that child away from her mother. No child should have to live through that kind of emotional abuse.

[Audrey Ponder]

who hasn't chased their little girl around with a blow dryer? are you people so stupid to call what we ALL do barbaric? do you honestly think she was serios saying 'pixy sticks for breakfast? come on now. sometimes people just say things. i say good for debbie tye for having the resources to do something so much fun with her little girl. you guys are just pissed cause you and your kids are too ugly to do pageants. ha. there's my 2 cents!!

[IWish]

I'm confused by some of the negative comments towards Debbie Tye. It's NOT okay for Debbie Tye to encourage her daughter to develop stage presence, but it IS okay for the rest of you to force your kids to play one sport after another, or practice the piano or violin for hours every single day? What about those of you who drag your kids to the mall, and continue to shop long after they're exhausted and ready to go home? How many of you bribe them with toys or cookies so you can try on 6 more pairs of shoes?

[Reverend H.L. Spork]

Ok, "Audrey" and "Mary", fun is fun, but it's "mothers" like you that make me long for eugenics.

Yeah, Debbie Tye sure sounded like she was joking about feeding her daughter sugar to keep her awake. There was laughter all around, I'm sure. And yeah, what mother hasn't chased her daughter around with a blow dryer? I'm sure that happens all the time, even more common than those moms drenching their daughters in chemicals to make them look more pleasing to some batch of judges with obviously skewed opinions about beauty. Thank goodness 4-year-old girls don't have body hair; they'd be waxed, plucked, and shaved to death by their overzealous pageant moms.

Emily Tye is the victim of an overzealous pageant mom who, like little league dads, grind their children into ideals they themselves could never hope to achieve. Not only is Debbie Tye a sick, mentally unbalanced woman, she is creating one as well.

As for the round of threats and abuses Mrs. Tye has endured, she brought it upon herself, period. However, any threats of violent acts upon her are illegal, and the perpetrators should be apprehended and punished. There is no excuse for terrorizing one's family, period.

And that's the last thing I have to say on the matter. If anyone wants to continue berating me for my views, feel free. However, any further flames will result in shutting down this thread.

[TheTruth]

OMG!! Shane Klingensmith has no talent at all he cant sing or act! Also the when Shane Klingensmith went out for a audition the person said he had no talent! They went to Vagas for nothing! did you listen his moms dad knew the guy who owned the place so it was a favor! and he was singing in the back of the truck priceless!! I think Jordan Mosely is a very talented little girl she will make it very far.. the other Jordan (the brat) shes such a brat to her mom if i had a daughter like that i would straighten her out! and the mother omg! she made her that way she lets her act that way and call her mother cus words... now come on! I think Emily Tye is a normal little girl every little girl whines getting there hair done? I know i complain gettin my hair done because im in pageants... but Emily Tye is a normal little girl! David Nutter dad is crazy! he is truly living through his children there crying i dont want to do acting and hes going to regret it later on in life!!

[justamazed]

I feel really sorry for the Tye family because of all of the threats that they have received. I have never been a pagent mom, but my sister was, and was much worse then those on the TV as were most of all of the mothers that I saw there. If anything, I do not feel that the show provided the accurate picture of a normal pagent mom. Most of the moms are nasty, rude, hateful and words that I will not post. I was amazed that emily's mom was as nice as she was, I have never met or seen a mom at a pagent as nice as she appeared to be. I wish her and her daughter well.

[Angie]

For all of you who are dissing Debbie Tye, You are the parents of children who can't look people in the eye and their first performance on stage whether it be at school or wherever, sit up there crying. Helping your children be well rounded is not illegal perhaps you should get a life get your fat ass off of the couch and prepare for your childrens future!

[Rhiannon]

I tried to watch the marathon last night. But missed most of it. My only comment is that in other shows that have shown pagent mom's, they all seem like Debbie Tye. That is sad. And thier kids grow up to be like them. What a waste of 20k a year.

Angie,
My daughter cried through her first "performance" at school. Just like a normal 4 year old. It didn't make a dang bit of difference, she said it was the best time she had. Forcing kids to show themselves like show dogs isn't doing a thing for thier future.

[Angie]

I had done pageants in High School. It is a very different life. Once in, you get all wrapped up into it. The money us parents spend putting our children in these events is totally outrageous but, I believe they make my daughter well rounded and that they teach her how to behave in public with manners. The upside is when the children win, they win savings bonds for their future. To outsiders I guess they will always think we are crazy but to each other, we are just pageant moms :-)

[Chelsea]

welll.... Just like Emily Tye i am a pageant
kid. I started around 4 also i whined and
cried also but it was also the BEST experiances
Infact we have been in a lot of the same pageants
such as American Coed Pageants i have to say
if you are dissing pageants you should go to some websites www.gocoed.com and see that MOST pageants say
you are not aloud to wear makeup unless you are over the age of 13, and they strongly advise LITTLE makeup IF any at all!! And in pageants you see ALL types of people SKINNY,HEFTY,ALL RACES. and whenever we don't win ofcourse you bad mouth the judges... but then you relize what happens happens and you deal with it try a little bit harder next time!!

[Karin]

I can't help thinking that more help with your homework would've been better for you, Chelsea, after I saw the errors in your post. Mean, I know, but there it is.

And, very obviously, the events Debbie Tye is dragging her daughter to DO allow make-up, seeing they all have it plastered on their little faces to the point that they look like plastic.

[getalife]

Why don't all of you get off your asses, away from these stupid message boards and go on about your life. Who cares? YA, the Tyes chose to do the show for YOUR entertainment. How they live their life doesn't concern you. How about we put a camera crew in your house and see what you do wrong? No one is a perfect parent. At least she is seeing her daughter everyday, which is probably more than most of you can say. I don't know one little girl who started in pagents as a child, and then was FORCED to do it the rest of their lives.. most of them are happy their mothers opened up all these doors for scholarships and most of them are proud of their accomplishments. Most children today are on the couch playing video games, eating till they out weigh you, or doing drugs. Shutup and start paying more attention to your kids and not somebody elses.

[Tara]

Most of you dont have the right to judge lil Emily. If you dont have a child in a paegant,then you wouldnt know how much stress it causes.

[ChgoRed]

I'm sorry, Tara--I was under the impression this was a voluntary activity. I had no idea someone was forcing you to participate in pageants.

Oh? It is voluntary? So you would willingly subject yourself and a young child to all the "stress it causes"? Wow.